Transgender ordinance to be introduced (again) at Fort Wayne City Council tonight
Posted by AWB in Fort WayneKaren Goldner will yet again introduce an ordinance that makes no sense, in my opinion. I wrote about it earlier here.
The word “transgender” is a bit of a misnomer to me. I suppose if someone is so confused about who they are and drop $20,000 having their Tallywacker sliced, diced and shoved inside of them, sure, we’ll call you transgendered. If you just have a fetish for dressing in woman’s clothing, (read:editor of local rag), you don’t count. You’re simply a goofball with a nasty fetish.
At the end of the day, men that want to wear panties, rouge and lipstick are not going to go inside the same restroom as someone’s daughters without running the risk a severe ass whoopin’ from a nearby parent. Goldner’s position on this is is patently ridiculous. She says that most restrooms have stalls for privacy. Sorry Karen, that’s just a stupid remark.
If Goldner’s ordinance passes, it will only exasperate the gay community and move them to shove more of this down your throats, (no pun intended), as illustrated below.
From a previous post.
‘Biology-based’ restrooms called ‘discrimination’ ‘Schools therefore cannot segregate students based on sexual orientation’
AUGUSTA, Maine — A lawyer for the Maine Human Rights Commission ( A Gay Rights Lobby Group) told members of the state board today that requiring all students to use “biology-based” (aka what we call Traditional Normal Boys Bathrooms for Boys & Girl Bathrooms for Girls…Only) restrooms and locker rooms in the state’s schools is illegal and cannot be allowed to continue.
“Schools cannot discriminate against sexual identity or gender identification. Schools therefore cannot segregate students based on sexual orientation and identity,” commission legal counsel John Gause said at today’s commission meeting, where he was unsuccessful in convincing the board to adopt immediately a set of recommendations.
The commission’s vote was 4-1 to hold a public hearing on the adoption of guidelines that would allow biological males to play on girls’ athletic teams and use girls’ restrooms and locker rooms if they proclaim their gender identity is female.
The parade of people that Goldner brought before city council last time was like a crossdresser’s convention, with most of them coming from Indianapolis. One of them is a Mr. Benge, from Indianapolis, who is president of Indiana Transgender Rights Advocacy Alliance. Goldner is an avowed lesbian, and this is nothing more than playing to her base. We really don’t care what crossdressers from Indianapolis have to say. This is our town, go away.
Goldner has offered nothing in the way of evidence that this type of discrimination exists in Fort Wayne. Well on second thought, maybe we should think about that for a moment. If you saw the guy pictured below shopping at Meijer’s for panty hose, how in the hell could you not laugh at him? Would that be considered harassment and/or discrimination?
Goldner’s ordinance is unenforceable by law, and it addresses a problem that doesn’t exist.
I’d invite those that oppose this to show up at the city council meeting tonight.
City County Building
Room 128
5:30 P.M.
If you want to read Goldner’s entire ordinance, you can download a Word doc of it here.
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Unisex bathrooms are the answer.
At the end of the day, separate bathrooms based on "Male" vs. "Female" is no different than separate bathrooms based on "White" vs. "Coloreds" as it used to be.
The caselaw on this is fairly clear-cut, "Separate But Equal Isn't".
Dan:
What council SHOULD be doing is working with ordinances ALREADY IN PLACE and see about getting THEM enforced, or amended so that THEY make sense, before they go off rushing about attacking another windmill.
But hey, that's just the facts from the down side of town.
(7 homicides…and growing)
Derek,
That's such an old excuse for so many issues and it doesn't fly with me. Race has nothing to do with this.
What about urinals? Do men stand there and shake there members in front of little girls washing their hands?
This also has nothing to do with equality. It's about common sense and your remarks lack that.
I'm not saying it's a "race issue". I'm saying that "discrimination based on gender" is functionally equivalent to "discrimination based on race".
In just about every other country I've gone to, the bathrooms have been unisex. There are no urinals, only stalls. The stalls go floor-to-ceiling, so you're not looking at your neighbor's underwear or whatever while they do their business. Everyone has privacy except out by the sinks (and, even then, some places I've been have simply had larger stalls with a sink in each stall).
So please, this isn't some crazy notion that can't be done. Other countries are happily doing it even as we speak.
so let's just spend $$$$ and change all the bathrooms in the county or build new ones.
it's only the tax payers $$ that's all….. yes that mean me and you if you pay taxes.
Please let's not find a reason to increases taxes!
Derek, I feel my civil rights are violated when I'm forced to share a restroom with a woman. Most women I know feel the same way. Hip hip hooray other countries do it that way. They also have ghettos for legal pot smoking, people living without plumbing, and homemade roadside bombs. I'm not one of those empty-headed lets do it because Jerkistan does it.
This is no different than "white" vs. "colored's" only bathroom?! Are you insane??
Karen Goldner once again proves that a vote for her has been a waste of a vote. If she wants to pick and choose her fights and set the laws that will best fit her lifestyle she has no place in Fort Wayne politics – or public service at all.
Let us put political correctness to the side, I know that is hard for many of you liberal donks, but these people all bent up in knots about the own sexual BS should not and do not deserve any special protection or specific laws giving them a free pass down the tulip tree turnpike.
To provide these loss souls anything special is a slap in the face to those that have suffered REAL hardships – no self imposed BS baseless hardships.
And that my friends tosses political correctness out the door and gives you my REAL thoughts on the issue.
You know boys and girls, I was downtown in your fair city just this afternoon ( an area I prefer to avoid like the plague) and I gotta tell ya, y'all got a shit load more things you need to worry about than spending money on re-doing your frickin' bathrooms so the occasional GLBT person feels better about themselves. ____You have a city swirling the economic toilet bowl and your elected officials are fu%king around with this? Who the hell is voting down there???
But think of the jobs this will create!
Pez, I think the politically correct term is now "saved or created"! lol
all of which were arguments the white folk used to make sure them dirty colored folk didn't use their bathrooms and drinking fountains.
Key words there being "used to be". That is such an old, stale, worn out argument. get something new will ya? If you want your 6 year old daughter in the stall next to Bubba while he's "breaking shrapnel", you are not only a lousy parent, you are a moron.
Yeah, they "used to be" considered valid arguments for racial-separation of bathrooms. But they're not. Just as they're not valid arguments for gender-separation in bathrooms.
If you can't see that "separate but equal isn't", then perhaps you might want to go back and read Brown v. Board of Education again.
If you can't see that "separate bathrooms for each gender" is just a version of "separate but equal" that society seems to be OK with despite it being morally wrong, then perhaps you should revisit those good ol' boys who edumacated you and seek some sort of restitution because you did not get your money's worth.
You can over-interpret, and over-lawyer all you want, it's an asinine argument. Of course that (asinine arguments) appears to be all the rage lately.
How about if we simplify it to it's logical end, we all just sh%t in a pile in the center of the room? Sound fair?
Seriously, you're a moron. How is THAT the "logical end" of eliminating gender-segregation of bathrooms?
Perhaps you should also get your money back for any classes that had to do with teaching you what "logic" actually meant.
I just assumed it would make you happy if we all gathered around in public restrooms, dropped trou and shat in unison. Men, women, children, maybe unicorns too. You seem like that kinda guy.
I'm not talking about third-world countries, I'm talking about most of europe.
And, precisely, which "civil right" is violated when you have to share the bathroom with someone of the opposite sex, because I don't think I can quite fine that in the Bill of Rights.
When it comes to sharing bathrooms, this is not a matter of civil rights at all, rather a matter of common sense, common decency and common courtesy.