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		<title>By: Jim Sack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Sack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, I agree with Outsider and will mention much of what you have said when I chat with a couple friends of mine from council.  I think we would all like to see this succeed, so the question is what must be done to bring in more user fees.  Thanks, again.  Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, I agree with Outsider and will mention much of what you have said when I chat with a couple friends of mine from council.  I think we would all like to see this succeed, so the question is what must be done to bring in more user fees.  Thanks, again.  Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Outsider</title>
		<link>http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/11/25/running-on-empty/comment-page-1/#comment-91079</link>
		<dc:creator>Outsider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, I appreciate the information you provided as I wasn\&#039;t aware of some of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, I appreciate the information you provided as I wasn\&#8217;t aware of some of it.</p>
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		<title>By: bloomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>bloomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not much of any of that is much help.But feel good.And that is only my opinion after 34 years.Talking about it does not really get it across.You have a good heart. Fries I think has a good handle on things.But was not my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not much of any of that is much help.But feel good.And that is only my opinion after 34 years.Talking about it does not really get it across.You have a good heart. Fries I think has a good handle on things.But was not my point.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Fetcho</title>
		<link>http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/11/25/running-on-empty/comment-page-1/#comment-91071</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Fetcho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloomer- Are you referring to me? 

If so, No. I sure the heck don&#039;t.  I volunteer. I work for free. 

My point was, the PSA does fill some gaps of things that public safety personnel didn&#039;t have access to in the area. Simulators, simunition room, wet lab, training bays, large auditorium, indoor range, multiple classrooms in one roof, and much more. My other point was is that they didn&#039;t duplicate a lot of things that we already have in the area, burn towers, flashover chambers, car fire, confined spaces, high/low angle rescue training areas, and much more. 

As far as the County Training Center, While I do have high admiration for Sheriff Fries, I think that his training center would duplicate a few things that the county already has access to. While I do agree that a few of the proposed items are needed, but this might not be the best and economical route to take. Having everything in a central location is great, but not always best. There are enough abandon buildings, fields, and parking lots in the area. 

Everyone&#039;s worried about the money. Look at the costs to keep the PSA running, a county training center would cost a lot to operate also, but nothing close to what the PSA is spending. 

I know if it came down to it, and the county ran out of money, Fries wouldn&#039;t think twice about jumping on a lawn mower to mow or plow the training center himself so his officers would be able to have the proper training-and I would place money on it that you would never hear him complain once about it, and guess what, if I knew about it, I would help him, regardless of the fact that if I think another training center is needed, nor the fact that I am not even on his department.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloomer- Are you referring to me? </p>
<p>If so, No. I sure the heck don&#8217;t.  I volunteer. I work for free. </p>
<p>My point was, the PSA does fill some gaps of things that public safety personnel didn&#8217;t have access to in the area. Simulators, simunition room, wet lab, training bays, large auditorium, indoor range, multiple classrooms in one roof, and much more. My other point was is that they didn&#8217;t duplicate a lot of things that we already have in the area, burn towers, flashover chambers, car fire, confined spaces, high/low angle rescue training areas, and much more. </p>
<p>As far as the County Training Center, While I do have high admiration for Sheriff Fries, I think that his training center would duplicate a few things that the county already has access to. While I do agree that a few of the proposed items are needed, but this might not be the best and economical route to take. Having everything in a central location is great, but not always best. There are enough abandon buildings, fields, and parking lots in the area. </p>
<p>Everyone&#8217;s worried about the money. Look at the costs to keep the PSA running, a county training center would cost a lot to operate also, but nothing close to what the PSA is spending. </p>
<p>I know if it came down to it, and the county ran out of money, Fries wouldn&#8217;t think twice about jumping on a lawn mower to mow or plow the training center himself so his officers would be able to have the proper training-and I would place money on it that you would never hear him complain once about it, and guess what, if I knew about it, I would help him, regardless of the fact that if I think another training center is needed, nor the fact that I am not even on his department.</p>
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		<title>By: bloomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>bloomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These entities are all ready training people being regional training academies.Why duplicate govermant services.Do you have a job to save?</description>
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		<title>By: Eric Fetcho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Fetcho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Numerous area public safety departments and schools use the facilities regularly.  The problem comes down to being able to charge for use of the facility. There are numerous classroom and hands on evolutions that can be held here, the space is extremely useful. There are a few limitations including no -outdoor- firing range, no areas for live burns, no EVOC driving course (simulators only), and no general outdoor fields, wooded areas, and ponds for training.  There are the simulators, simunition room, wet lab, bays, and much more (don’t forget the auditorium). Most classes are free to the attendees and most departments don’t want to shovel out money if they don’t have to.  They would shove everyone in a free classroom instead of paying for the PSA’s auditorium. 

One would think the money that they could make off of the local schools that use the facility would be enough to support it. Ivy Tech, Anthis(FWCS), Indiana Tech, IPFW, and Trine.

For Fire departments, FWFD has an older burn tower, flashover chamber and more not too far away. There is Southwest Fire\\\&#039;s burn tower, confined space training, car fire training, and much more that is less than 10 miles from the PSA.  No point in wasting more money to duplicate that at the PSA as far as I\\\&#039;m concerned... I\\\&#039;m glad they didn\\\&#039;t do that. Classes can easily be held with the classroom portion at the PSA in the morning and head out to the burn tower after lunch.  The Southwest Fire’s training center is already used by most of the NE Indiana public safety departments, not just area fire departments. Police departments use this for their special ops training also. 

As far as the driving courses are concerned, in my opinion we should be using existing unused paved areas in the area.  The space formerly known as Kitty Hawk property is one area that has been used in the past as a great driving course, and a massive amount of empty, paved land.  Setup cones and you will be set. 

Ponds...Yes they are frequently found around here, so training with them is needed.  But I know of a few local public safety personnel who would volunteer the use of their own ponds.  Let alone the public generally says yes at requests to train in their ponds anyways. The same goes for fields and wooded areas. 

What about the amazing fitness facility there?  Last I heard only certain personnel can use the facility.  I think it was only open to FWPD and FWFD. I’m not sure if Allen County Police could use it, and I know Allen County Fire departments do not have access to it.  I’d clean up after myself, and even offer to clean a urinal or shovel a sidewalk or two for access to the fitness center. 

About the plowing, the city is using these facilities, why don’t they plow the parking lot? Aren’t there some FWPD/FWFD personnel that have offices located here?  Are we (Fort Wayne taxpayers) paying the PSA for the use of this, on top of this extra money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Numerous area public safety departments and schools use the facilities regularly.  The problem comes down to being able to charge for use of the facility. There are numerous classroom and hands on evolutions that can be held here, the space is extremely useful. There are a few limitations including no -outdoor- firing range, no areas for live burns, no EVOC driving course (simulators only), and no general outdoor fields, wooded areas, and ponds for training.  There are the simulators, simunition room, wet lab, bays, and much more (don’t forget the auditorium). Most classes are free to the attendees and most departments don’t want to shovel out money if they don’t have to.  They would shove everyone in a free classroom instead of paying for the PSA’s auditorium. </p>
<p>One would think the money that they could make off of the local schools that use the facility would be enough to support it. Ivy Tech, Anthis(FWCS), Indiana Tech, IPFW, and Trine.</p>
<p>For Fire departments, FWFD has an older burn tower, flashover chamber and more not too far away. There is Southwest Fire\\\&#8217;s burn tower, confined space training, car fire training, and much more that is less than 10 miles from the PSA.  No point in wasting more money to duplicate that at the PSA as far as I\\\&#8217;m concerned&#8230; I\\\&#8217;m glad they didn\\\&#8217;t do that. Classes can easily be held with the classroom portion at the PSA in the morning and head out to the burn tower after lunch.  The Southwest Fire’s training center is already used by most of the NE Indiana public safety departments, not just area fire departments. Police departments use this for their special ops training also. </p>
<p>As far as the driving courses are concerned, in my opinion we should be using existing unused paved areas in the area.  The space formerly known as Kitty Hawk property is one area that has been used in the past as a great driving course, and a massive amount of empty, paved land.  Setup cones and you will be set. </p>
<p>Ponds&#8230;Yes they are frequently found around here, so training with them is needed.  But I know of a few local public safety personnel who would volunteer the use of their own ponds.  Let alone the public generally says yes at requests to train in their ponds anyways. The same goes for fields and wooded areas. </p>
<p>What about the amazing fitness facility there?  Last I heard only certain personnel can use the facility.  I think it was only open to FWPD and FWFD. I’m not sure if Allen County Police could use it, and I know Allen County Fire departments do not have access to it.  I’d clean up after myself, and even offer to clean a urinal or shovel a sidewalk or two for access to the fitness center. </p>
<p>About the plowing, the city is using these facilities, why don’t they plow the parking lot? Aren’t there some FWPD/FWFD personnel that have offices located here?  Are we (Fort Wayne taxpayers) paying the PSA for the use of this, on top of this extra money?</p>
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		<title>By: bloomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>bloomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Each subject of is government handcuffed by law.And everyone is trying to save their job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each subject of is government handcuffed by law.And everyone is trying to save their job.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Sack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Sack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, well.  I am not a professional academy designer, so I should not recommend all that should be in the idea academy for this area.  What I can suggest is that we only need one academy here, but it should be very good.  It should be a cooperative venture, Sheriff Fries does not need his own place, the police chief, the fire chief, the volunteers, the hazmat people, the whoever do not all need their own publically supported facilities.  We can really do with one here, not ten or five or even two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, well.  I am not a professional academy designer, so I should not recommend all that should be in the idea academy for this area.  What I can suggest is that we only need one academy here, but it should be very good.  It should be a cooperative venture, Sheriff Fries does not need his own place, the police chief, the fire chief, the volunteers, the hazmat people, the whoever do not all need their own publically supported facilities.  We can really do with one here, not ten or five or even two.</p>
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		<title>By: Outsider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outsider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

Does the Public Safety academy have a driving track for law enforcement practice &amp; others? That was something I thought would be an excellent idea. The fact that the public would be able to use that track &amp; the shooting range was a positive for me too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>Does the Public Safety academy have a driving track for law enforcement practice &amp; others? That was something I thought would be an excellent idea. The fact that the public would be able to use that track &amp; the shooting range was a positive for me too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Sack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Sack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randall, I am sure there are those who can better deliniate the differences, but I have heard the primary difference is an outdoor shooting range the sheriff wants.  I think his overlaps much with the Academy.  I have not heard a compelling argument that it is essential, more comments, instead, that it is his goal and he wants it.  Turf at our expense.  I would love to hear someone explain why it is necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randall, I am sure there are those who can better deliniate the differences, but I have heard the primary difference is an outdoor shooting range the sheriff wants.  I think his overlaps much with the Academy.  I have not heard a compelling argument that it is essential, more comments, instead, that it is his goal and he wants it.  Turf at our expense.  I would love to hear someone explain why it is necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Randall Hire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randall Hire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not as much in tune with local politics as most of you are, so please clue me in- Does this academy provide the same functionality as the Sheriff&#039;s new training center?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not as much in tune with local politics as most of you are, so please clue me in- Does this academy provide the same functionality as the Sheriff&#8217;s new training center?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Sack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Sack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Bloomer, I will pass that on to my three friends on council, as well as a couple of members with whom I regularly chat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Bloomer, I will pass that on to my three friends on council, as well as a couple of members with whom I regularly chat.</p>
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		<title>By: bloomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>bloomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the fire side of things,regional training centres are common.As example St.Joe Township is a regional training center.Auburn is the local National recognised training center.So it is no surprise that the building is under utilized.What it lacks is hands on training.You can sit in a class room anywhere and learn.But to understand how hot or utterly black a fire can be just doesn&#039;t register until you do it.As most other things fire departments do.It would of helped if firemen got to help design the site,not just academics.My feeling is the tax payers would be best served if the building was sold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the fire side of things,regional training centres are common.As example St.Joe Township is a regional training center.Auburn is the local National recognised training center.So it is no surprise that the building is under utilized.What it lacks is hands on training.You can sit in a class room anywhere and learn.But to understand how hot or utterly black a fire can be just doesn&#8217;t register until you do it.As most other things fire departments do.It would of helped if firemen got to help design the site,not just academics.My feeling is the tax payers would be best served if the building was sold.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to come out and endorse anyone at this point, it&#039;s far too early. 

Thus far, I&#039;ve not been impressed with Henry&#039;s lack of performance, willingness to spend willy-nilly and the almost total lack of transparency. It would not surprise be to see a Henry plan to increase the LOIT after the first of the year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to come out and endorse anyone at this point, it&#8217;s far too early. </p>
<p>Thus far, I&#8217;ve not been impressed with Henry&#8217;s lack of performance, willingness to spend willy-nilly and the almost total lack of transparency. It would not surprise be to see a Henry plan to increase the LOIT after the first of the year.</p>
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