Comments on: The Filling Station Next Door http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/ Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:49:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Jim Sack http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/comment-page-1/#comment-88940 Jim Sack Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:32:00 +0000 http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/#comment-88940 Dear Duke and the Rest, Nice neighborhood. Sorry that Duke has trouble renting his places. I do not. The area is very nice, I lived years on the north side and after IU in West Central. I love, repeat, love Rudisill. I enjoy Foster, the campus, the boulevard and the lower prices, lower crime and less traffic and noise. My dogs love it, the grandchildren love it. I have been out of town and out of country, so I have comparisons. Thanks, Dan, for sticking up for me. The question is simple: would you like to have a filling station next to your house. Most, the sane among us, would say no. Others like the fumes. The Rongos family, generally good people who live elsewhere, would like to stick a filling station and a strip mall in our neighborhood. They do not live here and only wish to profit from the area. Good for them, but we are not happy with the idea for a variety of reasons. I also wonder whether the architect has a stake in this. It is odd, now that you, Pez, mention it. Some of the neighbors are comfy with tankers and loud cars. Some are not. I count four council votes against, maybe five. Goldner, of course, will await a nod from the mayor before deciding. Quid pro quo, perhaps. Dear Duke and the Rest,

Nice neighborhood. Sorry that Duke has trouble renting his places. I do not. The area is very nice, I lived years on the north side and after IU in West Central. I love, repeat, love Rudisill. I enjoy Foster, the campus, the boulevard and the lower prices, lower crime and less traffic and noise. My dogs love it, the grandchildren love it. I have been out of town and out of country, so I have comparisons.

Thanks, Dan, for sticking up for me.

The question is simple: would you like to have a filling station next to your house. Most, the sane among us, would say no. Others like the fumes. The Rongos family, generally good people who live elsewhere, would like to stick a filling station and a strip mall in our neighborhood. They do not live here and only wish to profit from the area. Good for them, but we are not happy with the idea for a variety of reasons.

I also wonder whether the architect has a stake in this. It is odd, now that you, Pez, mention it.

Some of the neighbors are comfy with tankers and loud cars. Some are not. I count four council votes against, maybe five. Goldner, of course, will await a nod from the mayor before deciding. Quid pro quo, perhaps.

]]> By: Dan http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/comment-page-1/#comment-88934 Dan Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:34:10 +0000 http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/#comment-88934 Duke, Email me the info on your house. Duke,

Email me the info on your house.

]]> By: Dan http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/comment-page-1/#comment-88933 Dan Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:33:16 +0000 http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/#comment-88933 Duke, No. Quit putting words in my mouth. Is that what they taught you at OCS? I thought it'd be the opposite. :) I've been to some of Jim's houses. They are without a doubt, some of the best kept properties in the neighborhood. If there were more people like him, maybe your property's value wouldn't be so depressed. Duke,

No. Quit putting words in my mouth. Is that what they taught you at OCS? I thought it’d be the opposite. :)

I’ve been to some of Jim’s houses. They are without a doubt, some of the best kept properties in the neighborhood. If there were more people like him, maybe your property’s value wouldn’t be so depressed.

]]> By: Duke http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/comment-page-1/#comment-88932 Duke Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:26:22 +0000 http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/#comment-88932 Mr. Dan, are you saying Mr. Jim is one of the Section 8 slum lords that leeches off of the system that the democraps created? Mr. Dan, are you saying Mr. Jim is one of the Section 8 slum lords that leeches off of the system that the democraps created?

]]> By: me! http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/comment-page-1/#comment-88931 me! Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:23:23 +0000 http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/#comment-88931 I don't know why anyone would invest down there anyway. That whole part of town bitches about wanting more retail out there as stores are closing and then don't spend money at those stores that open, then bitch when they go out of biz. but could i expect anything other then the norm for this town. I don’t know why anyone would invest down there anyway. That whole part of town bitches about wanting more retail out there as stores are closing and then don’t spend money at those stores that open, then bitch when they go out of biz.

but could i expect anything other then the norm for this town.

]]> By: Dan http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/comment-page-1/#comment-88930 Dan Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:07:02 +0000 http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/#comment-88930 Come to think of it, Mr. Jim owns some 20+ odd homes in that area, not counting the one he lives in. I'm sure he has an opinion that will enlighten you. Come to think of it, Mr. Jim owns some 20+ odd homes in that area, not counting the one he lives in. I’m sure he has an opinion that will enlighten you.

]]> By: Dan http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/comment-page-1/#comment-88929 Dan Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:05:42 +0000 http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/#comment-88929 Duke, You may want to actually ask the author of the post that question, Mr. Jim. (see top of the post headline). Then again, maybe you want to ask the democrats that pushed through much of the "forced" sub-prime loans, which in turn, deflated the housing market. I'm just saying.. Duke,

You may want to actually ask the author of the post that question, Mr. Jim.
(see top of the post headline).

Then again, maybe you want to ask the democrats that pushed through much of the “forced” sub-prime loans, which in turn, deflated the housing market. I’m just saying..

]]> By: Duke http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/comment-page-1/#comment-88928 Duke Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:51:53 +0000 http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/#comment-88928 I've got a house (built 1916; 1700 sqft; 2 story plus finished attic) 2 blocks away on Webster that I purchased for $23.5k back in 2002. It has sat vacant for the past 2 years while I'm off play'n Joe v/s Hajji. Today, there is another vacant house a couple of houses down with an asking price of $17.5k. These houses are typical of the area. Mr. Dan, exactly how much could this possibly lower the home values? Its not like they are asking to rezone residential land. They just wanna tear down a shit hole building and put up something else that couldn't be any worse. I’ve got a house (built 1916; 1700 sqft; 2 story plus finished attic) 2 blocks away on Webster that I purchased for $23.5k back in 2002. It has sat vacant for the past 2 years while I’m off play’n Joe v/s Hajji. Today, there is another vacant house a couple of houses down with an asking price of $17.5k. These houses are typical of the area.

Mr. Dan, exactly how much could this possibly lower the home values?

Its not like they are asking to rezone residential land. They just wanna tear down a shit hole building and put up something else that couldn’t be any worse.

]]> By: Pez http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/comment-page-1/#comment-88919 Pez Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:28:12 +0000 http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/#comment-88919 Perhaps it's my own naivete in the mechanics of these things, but it seems that the architect is really going above and beyond what I would figure an architect might, attending meeting after meeting and hearing after hearing, being the public face of this development. My internal consiprator thinks that it's because the architect has a finalncial interest as well, namely the construction and development of the property beyond the architecture. Perhaps it’s my own naivete in the mechanics of these things, but it seems that the architect is really going above and beyond what I would figure an architect might, attending meeting after meeting and hearing after hearing, being the public face of this development. My internal consiprator thinks that it’s because the architect has a finalncial interest as well, namely the construction and development of the property beyond the architecture.

]]> By: Bob G. http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/comment-page-1/#comment-88918 Bob G. Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:16:37 +0000 http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/#comment-88918 Jim: Doesn't some "dollar store" figure in w/ Madam Lola & the drug house? Time to figure out what developers SAY and what they MEAN are TWO...DIFFERENT...THINGS, especially on the S/E side of town. (And chase out Casa D'Angelo in the meantime) But it's not like I LIVE there...oh, wait...I DO. (nevermind) ;) Jim:
Doesn’t some “dollar store” figure in w/ Madam Lola & the drug house?

Time to figure out what developers SAY and what they MEAN are TWO…DIFFERENT…THINGS, especially on the S/E side of town.
(And chase out Casa D’Angelo in the meantime)

But it’s not like I LIVE there…oh, wait…I DO.
(nevermind)

;)

]]> By: Pez http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/comment-page-1/#comment-88917 Pez Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:47:24 +0000 http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/#comment-88917 It's not about letting go of the past, the building itself is of no historical value. It's about responsible development and focusing on the assets the SE area has, namely it's residences. The departure of Lutheran Hospital from this area left a lot of property surrounding the area over-zoned... Unfortunately many of the nighborhood associations were asleep at the switch and failed to recognize things like the fact that most of the Fairfield corridor is zoned as a mix of commercial and industrial. The owners of this building failed to come through with their landscaping they committed to when taxpayers bought them new sidewalks, and in the 5 years that they owned the building they failed to so much as paint it. The old jilted lover cliche applies here, hurt me once, shame on you... hurt me twice... It’s not about letting go of the past, the building itself is of no historical value. It’s about responsible development and focusing on the assets the SE area has, namely it’s residences. The departure of Lutheran Hospital from this area left a lot of property surrounding the area over-zoned… Unfortunately many of the nighborhood associations were asleep at the switch and failed to recognize things like the fact that most of the Fairfield corridor is zoned as a mix of commercial and industrial. The owners of this building failed to come through with their landscaping they committed to when taxpayers bought them new sidewalks, and in the 5 years that they owned the building they failed to so much as paint it. The old jilted lover cliche applies here, hurt me once, shame on you… hurt me twice…

]]> By: The Fake Al Davis http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/comment-page-1/#comment-88916 The Fake Al Davis Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:57:52 +0000 http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2009/10/20/the-filling-station-next-door/#comment-88916 Tear it down and clean up the neighborhood. Sometimes we have to move forward and sadly to be the modern city we hope it will be we have to let go of the past. to draw in the money, people have to feel like they are going to a safe and modern facility. Rather than weep over the past, lets move forward, get rid of the crap, and worry about bigger things like the fact the mayor is trying to railroad us with a casino that his brother will be an owner of, and the amount of fecal matter people it will draw instead of crying that the old buildings and the cockroach people that vagrant them will be gone... Tear it down and clean up the neighborhood. Sometimes we have to move forward and sadly to be the modern city we hope it will be we have to let go of the past. to draw in the money, people have to feel like they are going to a safe and modern facility. Rather than weep over the past, lets move forward, get rid of the crap, and worry about bigger things like the fact the mayor is trying to railroad us with a casino that his brother will be an owner of, and the amount of fecal matter people it will draw instead of crying that the old buildings and the cockroach people that vagrant them will be gone…

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