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		<title>By: tim zank</title>
		<link>http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2008/11/26/outrageous-gift-certificates-for-abortions/comment-page-1/#comment-82250</link>
		<dc:creator>tim zank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the kind words Mrev!</description>
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		<title>By: MRev. Kenneth White, Jnr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>MRev. Kenneth White, Jnr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually have to interject here... I was born 3 months and a day premature almost 33 years ago and I was very touch and go for the first month, I had really good doctors, I am blessed by that regard and extended sacrifice the staff at St. Joseph and Parkview made so many years ago. 

As far as the gift certificates it would be one way for a mother to provide money to their child for reproductive issues (not abortions) without handing over cash. As we are headed to a cashless society you are going to see gift cards become a norm to restrict where kids use money.

I am both Pro Life and Pro Choice It is possible to be both. I think that while it should remain legally accessible each infanticide needs to be scrutinized under medical ethics in a hospital and not in the backroom of a Clinic, where there is hardly medical supervision or ethics.

My condolences Tim! For what it is worth, I know how I felt when my mom lost my twin baby brothers at 6 months, I can only begin to imagine what you still go through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually have to interject here&#8230; I was born 3 months and a day premature almost 33 years ago and I was very touch and go for the first month, I had really good doctors, I am blessed by that regard and extended sacrifice the staff at St. Joseph and Parkview made so many years ago. </p>
<p>As far as the gift certificates it would be one way for a mother to provide money to their child for reproductive issues (not abortions) without handing over cash. As we are headed to a cashless society you are going to see gift cards become a norm to restrict where kids use money.</p>
<p>I am both Pro Life and Pro Choice It is possible to be both. I think that while it should remain legally accessible each infanticide needs to be scrutinized under medical ethics in a hospital and not in the backroom of a Clinic, where there is hardly medical supervision or ethics.</p>
<p>My condolences Tim! For what it is worth, I know how I felt when my mom lost my twin baby brothers at 6 months, I can only begin to imagine what you still go through.</p>
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		<title>By: tim zank</title>
		<link>http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2008/11/26/outrageous-gift-certificates-for-abortions/comment-page-1/#comment-82245</link>
		<dc:creator>tim zank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>robert, they were only &quot;alive&quot; for  seconds....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>robert, they were only &#8220;alive&#8221; for  seconds&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: PRO-CHOICE/PRO-ABORTION</title>
		<link>http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2008/11/26/outrageous-gift-certificates-for-abortions/comment-page-1/#comment-82244</link>
		<dc:creator>PRO-CHOICE/PRO-ABORTION</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOPE! NOT ONCE GUILTY ABOUT HAVING AN ABORTION!!!! NO ONE IS POINTING A FINGER BACK AT ME. FUCK YOU ALL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOPE! NOT ONCE GUILTY ABOUT HAVING AN ABORTION!!!! NO ONE IS POINTING A FINGER BACK AT ME. FUCK YOU ALL</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Enders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Enders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,
Am I reading you correctly? Your daughters were born at 3 months? The world record for premature birth, to my understanding, is 21 weeks gestation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,<br />
Am I reading you correctly? Your daughters were born at 3 months? The world record for premature birth, to my understanding, is 21 weeks gestation.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pro Choice/Pro Abortion - Normally when you are busy pointing a finger at someone else, you usually forget about the other three pointing right back at you, but it appears you are too busy pointing the finger at everyone else to even stop and look within yourself.  Perhaps you are just angry with yourself for murdering a child?  My God, if you were married and already had children and you chose to murder one.....there are so many decent families that would have loved to have adopted that child.

I really hope you got your tubes tied after that abortion, just in case you come across another IDIOT doctor....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pro Choice/Pro Abortion &#8211; Normally when you are busy pointing a finger at someone else, you usually forget about the other three pointing right back at you, but it appears you are too busy pointing the finger at everyone else to even stop and look within yourself.  Perhaps you are just angry with yourself for murdering a child?  My God, if you were married and already had children and you chose to murder one&#8230;..there are so many decent families that would have loved to have adopted that child.</p>
<p>I really hope you got your tubes tied after that abortion, just in case you come across another IDIOT doctor&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: tim zank</title>
		<link>http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2008/11/26/outrageous-gift-certificates-for-abortions/comment-page-1/#comment-82241</link>
		<dc:creator>tim zank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, pro choice/pro abortion!  Experiencing a little delayed guilt? Sheesh, where to begin.

1st of all, I am not a RADICAL anti-abortionist, I don&#039;t protest anywhere, I don&#039;t belong to any groups, I don&#039;t preach to anyone about it and I don&#039;t give a flying fuck what you do with your body.  

I simply made an observation/comment on a topic on this blog espousing my own personal thoughts, beliefs and experiences, and my disapointment in the marketing plans of planned parenthood. 

My girls were born premature at a little less than three months, not nine, hence I guess I am not an idiot as you stated, as you can get an abortion at 3 months, correct??

As for your disdain for welfare recipients, is it your theory had we simply aborted them we wouldn&#039;t have people &quot;gaming&quot; the welfare system?

I don&#039;t know if you had a bad day, or if you&#039;re just a really nasty human being, but you really should read and analyze my comments before you start ranting about what an idiot I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, pro choice/pro abortion!  Experiencing a little delayed guilt? Sheesh, where to begin.</p>
<p>1st of all, I am not a RADICAL anti-abortionist, I don&#8217;t protest anywhere, I don&#8217;t belong to any groups, I don&#8217;t preach to anyone about it and I don&#8217;t give a flying fuck what you do with your body.  </p>
<p>I simply made an observation/comment on a topic on this blog espousing my own personal thoughts, beliefs and experiences, and my disapointment in the marketing plans of planned parenthood. </p>
<p>My girls were born premature at a little less than three months, not nine, hence I guess I am not an idiot as you stated, as you can get an abortion at 3 months, correct??</p>
<p>As for your disdain for welfare recipients, is it your theory had we simply aborted them we wouldn&#8217;t have people &#8220;gaming&#8221; the welfare system?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you had a bad day, or if you&#8217;re just a really nasty human being, but you really should read and analyze my comments before you start ranting about what an idiot I am.</p>
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		<title>By: PRO-CHOICE/PRO-ABORTION</title>
		<link>http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2008/11/26/outrageous-gift-certificates-for-abortions/comment-page-1/#comment-82240</link>
		<dc:creator>PRO-CHOICE/PRO-ABORTION</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will admit that I had an ABORTION!!! I am married and we didn&#039;t want ANY MORE KIDS! I was on BIRTH CONTROL just had an IDIOT doctor who didn&#039;t know the right kind of birth control pills to put me on. OH WELL!!!! 
 
WHY IN THE HELL AREN&#039;T YOU RADICAL ANTI-ABORTIONISTS AT THE TRIALS OF THE PEOPLE WHO KILL CHILDREN??? Where were you when the mom who killed her baby and left it on the bed for her other children take care of the corpse? Where were you when the couple on Runnion killed their baby? WHY AREN&#039;T TRYING TO GET THEM STERILIZED??? I am SICK AND F**KING tired of you RADICALS telling me what to do with my body! IT IS NONE OF YOUR STINKING BUSINESS!!! 
If abortion is outlawed TIM ZANK-open up your big FAT wallet to take care of all of the UNWANTED children that will be abandoned and murdered after birth because of parents who dont&#039; want them. Oh, yeah, that is right, close your legs and we won&#039;t have that problem... SO SORRY, this is 21st century and it is going to happen. 
While I sympathize with the death of your babies, THEY WERE BORN you idiot. No one has an abortion in the 9th MONTH! DUH!
What about all of the WELFARE people who have baby after baby and we support that???? I am sick and tired of working my ass off every single solitary day then go to the grocery store at the beginning of each month and watch them with their welfare cards, leather coats (everyone in the family was wearing one), pull out a wad of bills to pay what the welfare card didn&#039;t and then drive off in their Chrysler 500M!!! WHY ISN&#039;T THERE AN OUTRAGE ON THAT???

ALL OF YOU RADICALS! STAY OUT OF MY PERSONAL LIFE AND I WILL STAY OUT OF YOURS....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will admit that I had an ABORTION!!! I am married and we didn&#8217;t want ANY MORE KIDS! I was on BIRTH CONTROL just had an IDIOT doctor who didn&#8217;t know the right kind of birth control pills to put me on. OH WELL!!!! </p>
<p>WHY IN THE HELL AREN&#8217;T YOU RADICAL ANTI-ABORTIONISTS AT THE TRIALS OF THE PEOPLE WHO KILL CHILDREN??? Where were you when the mom who killed her baby and left it on the bed for her other children take care of the corpse? Where were you when the couple on Runnion killed their baby? WHY AREN&#8217;T TRYING TO GET THEM STERILIZED??? I am SICK AND F**KING tired of you RADICALS telling me what to do with my body! IT IS NONE OF YOUR STINKING BUSINESS!!!<br />
If abortion is outlawed TIM ZANK-open up your big FAT wallet to take care of all of the UNWANTED children that will be abandoned and murdered after birth because of parents who dont&#8217; want them. Oh, yeah, that is right, close your legs and we won&#8217;t have that problem&#8230; SO SORRY, this is 21st century and it is going to happen.<br />
While I sympathize with the death of your babies, THEY WERE BORN you idiot. No one has an abortion in the 9th MONTH! DUH!<br />
What about all of the WELFARE people who have baby after baby and we support that???? I am sick and tired of working my ass off every single solitary day then go to the grocery store at the beginning of each month and watch them with their welfare cards, leather coats (everyone in the family was wearing one), pull out a wad of bills to pay what the welfare card didn&#8217;t and then drive off in their Chrysler 500M!!! WHY ISN&#8217;T THERE AN OUTRAGE ON THAT???</p>
<p>ALL OF YOU RADICALS! STAY OUT OF MY PERSONAL LIFE AND I WILL STAY OUT OF YOURS&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: tim zank</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim zank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 05:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, this just get&#039;s worse and worse every frickin&#039; year.  These morons are not &quot;PRO-CHOICE&quot; they are &quot;PRO-ABORTION&quot;. The terms somehow got fricked up in the last few years. 

Its not exactly rocket science boys and girls, if you&#039;ve ever HAD children and ever had an ultrasound, you cannot dispute little hands, legs, arms and heads.  I don&#039;t give a shit what your definition of &quot;conception&quot; is,  I lost twin girls at just under three months and got to hold them in my hands as they died (this was almost 30 years ago, they would have lived today) and they didn&#039;t look like any random &quot;mass of tissue&quot;.  I&#039;m not terribly outspoken on abortion, as I know it&#039;s a terribly emotional subject, but at least set aside the hype and the bullshit, it&#039;s a frickin&#039; kid you just KILLED. Be honest enough to admit it, if you&#039;re gonna do it.

As for planned parenthood, I NEVER had a problem with them helping with birth control &amp; dispensing birth control pills, as that prevents the problem of abortion becoming an issue.

Sorry..../rant off</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, this just get&#8217;s worse and worse every frickin&#8217; year.  These morons are not &#8220;PRO-CHOICE&#8221; they are &#8220;PRO-ABORTION&#8221;. The terms somehow got fricked up in the last few years. </p>
<p>Its not exactly rocket science boys and girls, if you&#8217;ve ever HAD children and ever had an ultrasound, you cannot dispute little hands, legs, arms and heads.  I don&#8217;t give a shit what your definition of &#8220;conception&#8221; is,  I lost twin girls at just under three months and got to hold them in my hands as they died (this was almost 30 years ago, they would have lived today) and they didn&#8217;t look like any random &#8220;mass of tissue&#8221;.  I&#8217;m not terribly outspoken on abortion, as I know it&#8217;s a terribly emotional subject, but at least set aside the hype and the bullshit, it&#8217;s a frickin&#8217; kid you just KILLED. Be honest enough to admit it, if you&#8217;re gonna do it.</p>
<p>As for planned parenthood, I NEVER had a problem with them helping with birth control &amp; dispensing birth control pills, as that prevents the problem of abortion becoming an issue.</p>
<p>Sorry&#8230;./rant off</p>
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		<title>By: opticsdoug</title>
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		<dc:creator>opticsdoug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe birth control didn&#039;t exist when you were in college, and everyone who had sex dropped out to raise their children...

But when I went to school, planned parenthood was where just about everyone went for Birth Control and STD screenings.

If you didn&#039;t have awesome medical insurance or your parents would flip at the thought of you having sex, they provided the one avenue for you to get what you needed - knowledgeable medical advice and reasonably priced birth control.

You folks might be astounded at how many abortions their services *prevent.*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe birth control didn&#8217;t exist when you were in college, and everyone who had sex dropped out to raise their children&#8230;</p>
<p>But when I went to school, planned parenthood was where just about everyone went for Birth Control and STD screenings.</p>
<p>If you didn&#8217;t have awesome medical insurance or your parents would flip at the thought of you having sex, they provided the one avenue for you to get what you needed &#8211; knowledgeable medical advice and reasonably priced birth control.</p>
<p>You folks might be astounded at how many abortions their services *prevent.*</p>
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		<title>By: J. Q. Taxpayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Q. Taxpayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 05:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry but I am going to the bathroom and toss my cookies. This is so sickening on so many levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry but I am going to the bathroom and toss my cookies. This is so sickening on so many levels.</p>
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		<title>By: gadfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From WTHI-TV:

&quot;Indiana Family Institute President Curt Smith said he is appalled by the certificates.

&quot;I think the way to help family planning is to give the money where there&#039;s no agenda. So if somebody wants to help a woman at a time of crisis, they can support the life centers throughout Indiana,&quot; said Smith.

&lt;b&gt;Planned Parenthood hopes philanthropists look at it differently. The organization hopes people might purchase the certificates, and then turn them back in for their patients who need reproductive healthcare, but can&#039;t pay for it.&lt;/b&gt;

From CovenantNews.Com:

&lt;b&gt;&quot;The two main sources for Planned Parenthood funding ...are the $50 Million plus Planned Parenthood gets annually through the Title X program, and the estimated $50 Million plus Planned Parenthood gets annually through the Medicaid program.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

Somehow, taxpayer-funding for abortions is not enough to keep these baby-killers going!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From WTHI-TV:</p>
<p>&#8220;Indiana Family Institute President Curt Smith said he is appalled by the certificates.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think the way to help family planning is to give the money where there&#8217;s no agenda. So if somebody wants to help a woman at a time of crisis, they can support the life centers throughout Indiana,&#8221; said Smith.</p>
<p><b>Planned Parenthood hopes philanthropists look at it differently. The organization hopes people might purchase the certificates, and then turn them back in for their patients who need reproductive healthcare, but can&#8217;t pay for it.</b></p>
<p>From CovenantNews.Com:</p>
<p><b>&#8220;The two main sources for Planned Parenthood funding &#8230;are the $50 Million plus Planned Parenthood gets annually through the Title X program, and the estimated $50 Million plus Planned Parenthood gets annually through the Medicaid program.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>Somehow, taxpayer-funding for abortions is not enough to keep these baby-killers going!</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about something just makes you sick to your stomach.  What a world we live in today.  Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about something just makes you sick to your stomach.  What a world we live in today.  Sigh.</p>
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