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		<title>By: gadfly</title>
		<link>http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2008/10/09/conservative-breakfast-club/comment-page-1/#comment-81540</link>
		<dc:creator>gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 04:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservatives are first individualists who have principled world views with little room for compromise.  We are envied by socialist-leaning moderates who straddle the fence between &quot;extremist&quot; liberals and conservatives.

Ayn Rand gets it right in &quot;Extremism and the Art of Smearing&quot;:

&lt;i&gt;The safely undefined, indeterminate, mixed-economy, â€˜moderateâ€™ middleâ€”with a â€˜moderateâ€™ amount of government favors and special privileges for the rich and a â€˜moderateâ€™ amount of government handouts for the poorâ€”with a â€˜moderateâ€™ respect for rights and a â€˜moderateâ€™ degree of brute forceâ€”with a â€˜moderateâ€™ amount of freedom and a â€˜moderateâ€™ amount of slaveryâ€”with a â€˜moderateâ€™ degree of justice and a â€˜moderateâ€™ degree of injusticeâ€”with a â€˜moderateâ€™ amount of security and a â€˜moderateâ€™ amount of terror â€”and with a moderate degree of tolerance for all, except those â€˜extremistsâ€™ who uphold principles, consistency, objectivity, morality, and who refuse to compromise.&lt;/i&gt;

You either are ...or you are not a conservative.  There is no such ting as a &quot;fiscal&quot; or &quot;social&quot; conservative ...its all or nothing.   Paul Helmke does not qualify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatives are first individualists who have principled world views with little room for compromise.  We are envied by socialist-leaning moderates who straddle the fence between &#8220;extremist&#8221; liberals and conservatives.</p>
<p>Ayn Rand gets it right in &#8220;Extremism and the Art of Smearing&#8221;:</p>
<p><i>The safely undefined, indeterminate, mixed-economy, â€˜moderateâ€™ middleâ€”with a â€˜moderateâ€™ amount of government favors and special privileges for the rich and a â€˜moderateâ€™ amount of government handouts for the poorâ€”with a â€˜moderateâ€™ respect for rights and a â€˜moderateâ€™ degree of brute forceâ€”with a â€˜moderateâ€™ amount of freedom and a â€˜moderateâ€™ amount of slaveryâ€”with a â€˜moderateâ€™ degree of justice and a â€˜moderateâ€™ degree of injusticeâ€”with a â€˜moderateâ€™ amount of security and a â€˜moderateâ€™ amount of terror â€”and with a moderate degree of tolerance for all, except those â€˜extremistsâ€™ who uphold principles, consistency, objectivity, morality, and who refuse to compromise.</i></p>
<p>You either are &#8230;or you are not a conservative.  There is no such ting as a &#8220;fiscal&#8221; or &#8220;social&#8221; conservative &#8230;its all or nothing.   Paul Helmke does not qualify.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2008/10/09/conservative-breakfast-club/comment-page-1/#comment-81536</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Mr. Helmke is conservative then I don&#039;t want to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Mr. Helmke is conservative then I don&#8217;t want to be.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wonderly</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wonderly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe conservatives don&#039;t, but, I like to think the Founders did. And, Helmke doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe conservatives don&#8217;t, but, I like to think the Founders did. And, Helmke doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Squarefinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squarefinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this in the paper when it came out. I think it&#039;s about right. 

If all that is ever done is preach to the converted, how do you engage with others to exchange ideas and grow as a group? There are other good ideas and observations from folks other than just &quot;conservatives&quot;. I&#039;d be disappointed if so-called conservatives didn&#039;t want to compete in the arena of ideas with others and make an argument. I don&#039;t think &quot;conservatives&quot; have a lock on all the good ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this in the paper when it came out. I think it&#8217;s about right. </p>
<p>If all that is ever done is preach to the converted, how do you engage with others to exchange ideas and grow as a group? There are other good ideas and observations from folks other than just &#8220;conservatives&#8221;. I&#8217;d be disappointed if so-called conservatives didn&#8217;t want to compete in the arena of ideas with others and make an argument. I don&#8217;t think &#8220;conservatives&#8221; have a lock on all the good ideas.</p>
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