Comments on: Fort Wayne South Side High School in the tank for Obama with KKK posters http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2008/10/07/fort-wayne-south-side-high-school-in-the-tank-for-obama-with-kkk-posters/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:36:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: e-i-c http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2008/10/07/fort-wayne-south-side-high-school-in-the-tank-for-obama-with-kkk-posters/comment-page-1/#comment-81500 e-i-c Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:20:48 +0000 http://www.fortwaynenews.com/index.php/2008/10/07/fort-wayne-south-side-high-school-in-the-tank-for-obama-with-kkk-posters/#comment-81500 As a student at South Side I can say that the teacher overlooking the student is a great teacher. However sometimes I do see her 'roaming' the halls with another teacher that also has a class. It has been a big joke especially the past two years. To be honest, I find nothing wrong with these as a teenage student. They are both correct, but not politically correct(no pun intended). As a student at South Side I can say that the teacher overlooking the student is a great teacher. However sometimes I do see her ‘roaming’ the halls with another teacher that also has a class. It has been a big joke especially the past two years. To be honest, I find nothing wrong with these as a teenage student. They are both correct, but not politically correct(no pun intended).

]]> By: MRev. Kenneth White, Jnr. http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2008/10/07/fort-wayne-south-side-high-school-in-the-tank-for-obama-with-kkk-posters/comment-page-1/#comment-81498 MRev. Kenneth White, Jnr. Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:54:32 +0000 http://www.fortwaynenews.com/index.php/2008/10/07/fort-wayne-south-side-high-school-in-the-tank-for-obama-with-kkk-posters/#comment-81498 From my limited experience with the profession in public schools, usually student teachers are given a half term of limited supervision to get a grasp on the capabilities of teaching without someone leaning over their shoulder or breathing down their neck all the while through. As far as the actual lesson plan, at its roots (no pun intended) makes sense. The issue should not be the fact of the teacher doing the lesson but the fact that the students have the mindset that results in such a "poster(s)" to be created in the first place. Should the posters have been left hanging (sorry bad pun)? No probably not, but this is an issue not of the lesson or the teacher/student teacher or even the administrators, but of the students and how corrupted their sources of information and their ability to discern the information presented from whatever source are becoming. Or just maybe, they were given an opportunity to express their world view. Then, much like the times of yore, because we dont like the way they see things, we censor them and wonder why they dont trust the establishment or care to vote rather than challenge the them to think and be able to explain their position. And of course now this poor young student teacher is being made out to be the FWCS scapegoat and rumors are flying about racial indignation when in fact all it is is history coming back full circle twice over. Looks like the chickens found the roost. The lesson plan, which provided practical experience to a perpetuated principle or idea, is good. The issue that should scare us more is that the students still identify with the KKK and death rather than Martin Luther King and having dreams. From my limited experience with the profession in public schools, usually student teachers are given a half term of limited supervision to get a grasp on the capabilities of teaching without someone leaning over their shoulder or breathing down their neck all the while through.

As far as the actual lesson plan, at its roots (no pun intended) makes sense. The issue should not be the fact of the teacher doing the lesson but the fact that the students have the mindset that results in such a “poster(s)” to be created in the first place. Should the posters have been left hanging (sorry bad pun)? No probably not, but this is an issue not of the lesson or the teacher/student teacher or even the administrators, but of the students and how corrupted their sources of information and their ability to discern the information presented from whatever source are becoming.

Or just maybe, they were given an opportunity to express their world view. Then, much like the times of yore, because we dont like the way they see things, we censor them and wonder why they dont trust the establishment or care to vote rather than challenge the them to think and be able to explain their position. And of course now this poor young student teacher is being made out to be the FWCS scapegoat and rumors are flying about racial indignation when in fact all it is is history coming back full circle twice over. Looks like the chickens found the roost.

The lesson plan, which provided practical experience to a perpetuated principle or idea, is good. The issue that should scare us more is that the students still identify with the KKK and death rather than Martin Luther King and having dreams.

]]> By: J.Q. Taxpayer http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2008/10/07/fort-wayne-south-side-high-school-in-the-tank-for-obama-with-kkk-posters/comment-page-1/#comment-81491 J.Q. Taxpayer Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:36:09 +0000 http://www.fortwaynenews.com/index.php/2008/10/07/fort-wayne-south-side-high-school-in-the-tank-for-obama-with-kkk-posters/#comment-81491 The principal is trying to "stonewall" this at his level. I am sure there has been contact with the "locals" downtown and they want to keep clear of this one because so many are so far leftwing they would have agreed to such taking place. The point is the FWCS School Board should take a firm stand on this issue. Either it is OK or not. Student teachers are supervised by regular teachers and the admin of the school. They are not just turned loose with their own course plan and no checks and balances. So that story washes well only in the gutter water running down the street. If Dan is reporting what the principal stated correctly that this was a result of discussions concerning political satire follow along. It was done in a government social studies class. Dahhhhhhhhhh! When did sketching and drawings of cartoons become part of social studies? What happened to the kids who where not gifted in art sketching (which is subject of its own)? Someone at Southside should be fired for a lack of oversight and/or supervision of a student teacher, if that is what happened. Also the School Board should tell one Super. this stops now and if it is repeated again any place in FWCS the teacher, the principal and herself will be looking for new jobs. That is how you stop this crap. The Super should be informed of such in a public hearing so the community has no doubts on the position of the school board. Anything else will indicate the School Board finds this acceptable conduct. Everyone voting for FWCS School Board members should keep this in mind and before they pull the lever, push the button, or mark some ballet think about how they reacted to this issue. The principal is trying to “stonewall” this at his level. I am sure there has been contact with the “locals” downtown and they want to keep clear of this one because so many are so far leftwing they would have agreed to such taking place.

The point is the FWCS School Board should take a firm stand on this issue. Either it is OK or not.

Student teachers are supervised by regular teachers and the admin of the school. They are not just turned loose with their own course plan and no checks and balances. So that story washes well only in the gutter water running down the street.

If Dan is reporting what the principal stated correctly that this was a result of discussions concerning political satire follow along. It was done in a government social studies class. Dahhhhhhhhhh! When did sketching and drawings of cartoons become part of social studies? What happened to the kids who where not gifted in art sketching (which is subject of its own)?

Someone at Southside should be fired for a lack of oversight and/or supervision of a student teacher, if that is what happened. Also the School Board should tell one Super. this stops now and if it is repeated again any place in FWCS the teacher, the principal and herself will be looking for new jobs. That is how you stop this crap. The Super should be informed of such in a public hearing so the community has no doubts on the position of the school board. Anything else will indicate the School Board finds this acceptable conduct.

Everyone voting for FWCS School Board members should keep this in mind and before they pull the lever, push the button, or mark some ballet think about how they reacted to this issue.

]]> By: El Fatel http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2008/10/07/fort-wayne-south-side-high-school-in-the-tank-for-obama-with-kkk-posters/comment-page-1/#comment-81489 El Fatel Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:43:26 +0000 http://www.fortwaynenews.com/index.php/2008/10/07/fort-wayne-south-side-high-school-in-the-tank-for-obama-with-kkk-posters/#comment-81489 Mr. Langley: The point is the teacher who this student teacher was teaching under should have stopped it the moment it was turned in. Maybe AWB can find out if there were any derogatory signs reference Obama, if there were they should not have been posted either and should be taken down. This cannot be glossed over as a learning experience for a student teacher or a student learning about current events. One thing that is lacking in some people is common sense and knowing the difference between what satire is and what it is not. Would you thought it was just a learning experience if the signs the Klan were holding said Obama or Obama = death, neither one is funny, the McCain or if it would of said Obama. Let try a little common sense Mr. Langley:
The point is the teacher who this student teacher was teaching under should have stopped it the moment it was turned in.
Maybe AWB can find out if there were any derogatory signs reference Obama, if there were they should not have been posted either and should be taken down. This cannot be glossed over as a learning experience for a student teacher or a student learning about current events. One thing that is lacking in some people is common sense and knowing the difference between what satire is and what it is not. Would you thought it was just a learning experience if the signs the Klan were holding said Obama or Obama = death, neither one is funny, the McCain or if it would of said Obama. Let try a little common sense

]]> By: Charles Langley http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2008/10/07/fort-wayne-south-side-high-school-in-the-tank-for-obama-with-kkk-posters/comment-page-1/#comment-81487 Charles Langley Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:04:54 +0000 http://www.fortwaynenews.com/index.php/2008/10/07/fort-wayne-south-side-high-school-in-the-tank-for-obama-with-kkk-posters/#comment-81487 One can only wonder what the John McCain satire drawings included of Obama, one can only guess. This is only half of the story, El Fatel, where is the outrage? Student-teachers learn by experience, and I am certain a lesson was learned in this incident. At minimum the student-teacher engaged the students, provoked learning, as I am curious if 50% of America even knows what satire is, and made students think . . . imagine that, students engaged in current political thinking. Again, that particular poster should not have been posted, however, the teacher has learned the lesson, although we should be curious about the other McCain satirical posters! CML One can only wonder what the John McCain satire drawings included of Obama, one can only guess. This is only half of the story, El Fatel, where is the outrage?

Student-teachers learn by experience, and I am certain a lesson was learned in this incident. At minimum the student-teacher engaged the students, provoked learning, as I am curious if 50% of America even knows what satire is, and made students think . . . imagine that, students engaged in current political thinking. Again, that particular poster should not have been posted, however, the teacher has learned the lesson, although we should be curious about the other McCain satirical posters!

CML

]]> By: El Fatel http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2008/10/07/fort-wayne-south-side-high-school-in-the-tank-for-obama-with-kkk-posters/comment-page-1/#comment-81484 El Fatel Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:13:49 +0000 http://www.fortwaynenews.com/index.php/2008/10/07/fort-wayne-south-side-high-school-in-the-tank-for-obama-with-kkk-posters/#comment-81484 We wonder why the students at Southside have the lowest graduation rate in the city. It is evident that the Teacher does not and the Student Teacher has no clue what satire is. If this happened at Northside or any other schools, heads would roll. I do not find the Klan to be satirical in any form. If they would have been carrying Obama signs we would have never heard an end to the out roar. Where is the Ministerial Alliance, the NAACP and the Urban League on this; where is the outrage, where is the protesters and where is the investigation by the school, nothing, and it will be handled internally; what a double standard? We wonder why the students at Southside have the lowest graduation rate in the city. It is evident that the Teacher does not and the Student Teacher has no clue what satire is. If this happened at Northside or any other schools, heads would roll. I do not find the Klan to be satirical in any form. If they would have been carrying Obama signs we would have never heard an end to the out roar. Where is the Ministerial Alliance, the NAACP and the Urban League on this; where is the outrage, where is the protesters and where is the investigation by the school, nothing, and it will be handled internally; what a double standard?

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