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	<title>Comments on: AFA PAC Responds to Chairman Shine&#8217;s Letter</title>
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		<title>By: anonymous also</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous also</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This doesn&#039;t matter much, but just to make a point . . . Hitler was not far right. .  . . he was the head of the National Socialist Workers Party, which I believe is the English translation from which the German term NAZI comes from.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If I remember my history correct the Japanese and Italians of WW2 may have been classified in Poli-sci terms as far right, but Hitler was a far left socialist.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW, I think the reason this issue exploded is because the Henry camp did not want voters to remember his record on issues like gay rights and adult businesses . . .they&#039;d rather sit back and watch Kelty stumble or get shot at by his own good ol&#039; boy party leaders, but the Shine letter blew it up and may have backfired, because it made no sense for him to gay-bait the media and to criticize Christian voters.    Now more people know where Henry stands than before, and as I recall, this town was once called the City of Churches . . .I don&#039;t think this spotlight on Henry&#039;s liberal record will help him with a large number of voters.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This doesn&#8217;t matter much, but just to make a point . . . Hitler was not far right. .  . . he was the head of the National Socialist Workers Party, which I believe is the English translation from which the German term NAZI comes from.  </p>
<p>If I remember my history correct the Japanese and Italians of WW2 may have been classified in Poli-sci terms as far right, but Hitler was a far left socialist.</p>
<p>BTW, I think the reason this issue exploded is because the Henry camp did not want voters to remember his record on issues like gay rights and adult businesses . . .they&#8217;d rather sit back and watch Kelty stumble or get shot at by his own good ol&#8217; boy party leaders, but the Shine letter blew it up and may have backfired, because it made no sense for him to gay-bait the media and to criticize Christian voters.    Now more people know where Henry stands than before, and as I recall, this town was once called the City of Churches . . .I don&#8217;t think this spotlight on Henry&#8217;s liberal record will help him with a large number of voters.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Knuth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Knuth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Micah, your campaign finance report has a major error on it.

You may want to start working on your corrections, my complaint to the IED is on its way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micah, your campaign finance report has a major error on it.</p>
<p>You may want to start working on your corrections, my complaint to the IED is on its way!</p>
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		<title>By: L. Skywalker</title>
		<link>http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2007/10/23/afa-pac-responds-to-chairman-shines-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-15619</link>
		<dc:creator>L. Skywalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right and I will accept that.  Got to work on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right and I will accept that.  Got to work on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke, thank you for your thoughts.  Of course, based on your comment about me, its pretty clear your falling short as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke, thank you for your thoughts.  Of course, based on your comment about me, its pretty clear your falling short as well.</p>
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		<title>By: L. Skywalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>L. Skywalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam:

I am comparing you to Jesus.  Only you don&#039;t make the grade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam:</p>
<p>I am comparing you to Jesus.  Only you don&#8217;t make the grade.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aren&#039;t we supposed to compare ourselves to Jesus?  If you are a believing christian, he&#039;s supposed to be the standard by which we live our lives.  Jesus never hesitated to speak against the priests and pharisees for their false teachings and actions... hypocrisy.  &quot;either be hot or cold.  But you are neither... you are lukewarm.&quot;  

Seems to me Steve Shine wants to make the GOP a group of lukewarm robots with no convictions about social issues at all.  Maybe this country needs another political party and we can stick all those people into that group. They can pander to the liberals on social policies and pander to the conservatives on fiscal policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t we supposed to compare ourselves to Jesus?  If you are a believing christian, he&#8217;s supposed to be the standard by which we live our lives.  Jesus never hesitated to speak against the priests and pharisees for their false teachings and actions&#8230; hypocrisy.  &#8220;either be hot or cold.  But you are neither&#8230; you are lukewarm.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Seems to me Steve Shine wants to make the GOP a group of lukewarm robots with no convictions about social issues at all.  Maybe this country needs another political party and we can stick all those people into that group. They can pander to the liberals on social policies and pander to the conservatives on fiscal policies.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

are you comparing Micah to Jesus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>are you comparing Micah to Jesus?</p>
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		<title>By: John Wonderly</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wonderly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 05:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam-Some would say the Jesus of the Bible was &quot;abrasive and over the top&quot; for His time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam-Some would say the Jesus of the Bible was &#8220;abrasive and over the top&#8221; for His time.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Q. Taxpayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Q. Taxpayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 05:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam,

While being a Catholic like you, I believe the ads are over the top for me also. 

However, I have to give them a pass as much as I would give a pass to those who would offer the complete opposite view. 

Depending on your views one could call some of their statements nearly a lie, but from their veiw point are they?

What we are talking about is how strong some people believe about their faith and what they take from it. I think you would even agree some lay people within our own faith are a little over the top.

What is funny, had not some not blown a gasket about this it would have come and gone. Only to be heard by maybe a few thousand people. Now it has been heard by tens of thousands of people. The only question is, did it provide Kelty with more support now or drove more away?

We will never know because people in Fort Wayne are pretty closed mouth about their faith and depth of that faith. Just like reading the bible. You get six people and you end up with five or six views on what it says.

Just like Henry making the comment tonight about all his brothers and sisters. Being a older Catholic, I know just what that comment was intended to say. Was it a cheap shot? Just depends on your views!

Mark Souder made some comments about Tom Hayhurst that was wrong, but no one stood up and said a word from the GOP party. If we allow such to be &quot;part of the game&quot; then you have to allow this to be &quot;part of the game!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,</p>
<p>While being a Catholic like you, I believe the ads are over the top for me also. </p>
<p>However, I have to give them a pass as much as I would give a pass to those who would offer the complete opposite view. </p>
<p>Depending on your views one could call some of their statements nearly a lie, but from their veiw point are they?</p>
<p>What we are talking about is how strong some people believe about their faith and what they take from it. I think you would even agree some lay people within our own faith are a little over the top.</p>
<p>What is funny, had not some not blown a gasket about this it would have come and gone. Only to be heard by maybe a few thousand people. Now it has been heard by tens of thousands of people. The only question is, did it provide Kelty with more support now or drove more away?</p>
<p>We will never know because people in Fort Wayne are pretty closed mouth about their faith and depth of that faith. Just like reading the bible. You get six people and you end up with five or six views on what it says.</p>
<p>Just like Henry making the comment tonight about all his brothers and sisters. Being a older Catholic, I know just what that comment was intended to say. Was it a cheap shot? Just depends on your views!</p>
<p>Mark Souder made some comments about Tom Hayhurst that was wrong, but no one stood up and said a word from the GOP party. If we allow such to be &#8220;part of the game&#8221; then you have to allow this to be &#8220;part of the game!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cannon Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cannon Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know my opinion won&#039;t count for anything, or anywhere but in my own home, but I say it&#039;s time for Shine to either resign or back off and keep his mouth shut. He&#039;s already done enough damage to the party. The man has shown over the years that he&#039;s out for nobody but himself and his GOB club. Time to leave Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know my opinion won&#8217;t count for anything, or anywhere but in my own home, but I say it&#8217;s time for Shine to either resign or back off and keep his mouth shut. He&#8217;s already done enough damage to the party. The man has shown over the years that he&#8217;s out for nobody but himself and his GOB club. Time to leave Steve.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Reszel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Reszel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to say- I agree that homosexuality is not comparable to race in considering laws regarding discrimination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to say- I agree that homosexuality is not comparable to race in considering laws regarding discrimination.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Reszel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Reszel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;far right &quot; has derogatory overtones.  Why not  just say he is conservative.  Some would problablly not like to be called the The &quot;liberal left&quot; with implications of political positions. Why is there no &quot;far left&quot;?

I liked Micha&#039;s letter .
What this magnification of a simple add on a radio station that reallly can&#039;t have a huge following ,into a media bonanza  illustrates an issue that had not been previously broached before and allows voters to know where each candidate stands .  I think ithe big flap over this was more advantageous to Matt , than to Tom Henry bringing these views into the open. A statement of a candidates past voting record on an issue shouldn&#039;t be construed as &quot;negative&quot; campaigning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;far right &#8221; has derogatory overtones.  Why not  just say he is conservative.  Some would problablly not like to be called the The &#8220;liberal left&#8221; with implications of political positions. Why is there no &#8220;far left&#8221;?</p>
<p>I liked Micha&#8217;s letter .<br />
What this magnification of a simple add on a radio station that reallly can&#8217;t have a huge following ,into a media bonanza  illustrates an issue that had not been previously broached before and allows voters to know where each candidate stands .  I think ithe big flap over this was more advantageous to Matt , than to Tom Henry bringing these views into the open. A statement of a candidates past voting record on an issue shouldn&#8217;t be construed as &#8220;negative&#8221; campaigning.</p>
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		<title>By: Squarefinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squarefinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam T.,

Hitler was far right, Matt is just pro-family and pro-life. I guess compared to you, Cathy Hawks and Tom Henry, Matt could seem far right.

Do you treat your faith like you do being a Republican, when it doesn&#039;t suit you, you disregard what you don&#039;t like? Or does what the Pope has to say have standing with you? BTW, that&#039;s a question of faith.

And what of Mark Souder, is he too part of the far right? And where then is the corresponding letter from Shine, with all the outrage? I think this is pretty easy to figure out for the average person what&#039;s going on here. Who are you trying to fool Sam? It&#039;s not sellin&#039;.

My kids can get this one right, how about you?

One of these things is not like the others, 
One of these things doesn&#039;t belong:

1. Christian, Lutheran, Catholic, Homosexual
2. Asian, Hispanic, African-American, Homosexual</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam T.,</p>
<p>Hitler was far right, Matt is just pro-family and pro-life. I guess compared to you, Cathy Hawks and Tom Henry, Matt could seem far right.</p>
<p>Do you treat your faith like you do being a Republican, when it doesn&#8217;t suit you, you disregard what you don&#8217;t like? Or does what the Pope has to say have standing with you? BTW, that&#8217;s a question of faith.</p>
<p>And what of Mark Souder, is he too part of the far right? And where then is the corresponding letter from Shine, with all the outrage? I think this is pretty easy to figure out for the average person what&#8217;s going on here. Who are you trying to fool Sam? It&#8217;s not sellin&#8217;.</p>
<p>My kids can get this one right, how about you?</p>
<p>One of these things is not like the others,<br />
One of these things doesn&#8217;t belong:</p>
<p>1. Christian, Lutheran, Catholic, Homosexual<br />
2. Asian, Hispanic, African-American, Homosexual</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Pruitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Pruitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Crawford issued a strong rebuke of the AFA and this ad in particular at tonight&#039;s city council meeting...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Crawford issued a strong rebuke of the AFA and this ad in particular at tonight&#8217;s city council meeting&#8230;</p>
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