Comments on: Kelty Announces Public Safety Initiatives http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2007/09/25/kelty-announces-public-safety-initiatives/ Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:49:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: TuckersDad http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2007/09/25/kelty-announces-public-safety-initiatives/comment-page-1/#comment-14922 TuckersDad Mon, 01 Oct 2007 04:04:53 +0000 http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2007/09/25/kelty-announces-public-safety-initiatives/#comment-14922 Lifer, I have to disagree with you regarding the cars. The city gets far more out of those cars than most people realize...numerous officers working part-time jobs around the city use those cars to transport their own arrestees, rather than calling for an on-duty unit to make the transport. Every time an on-duty unit is called for a transport, expect it to take him/her out of service for about an hour, and that adds up in a hurry. Additionally, back in the days of fleet cars, officers routinely spent up to an hour per day loading and unloading equipment...if you look at the number of squads on the street during any given day, the lost man-hours can easily run in excess of 75 per day, at over $50/hr by the time you calculate salaries, benefits, insurance, worker's comp and all the other costs associated with putting cops on the streets. Off-duty units handle thousands of incidents every year that would ordinarily fall to the already strained manpower levels of the police department. In addition, units routinely call on early to take runs so the officers ending their shifts can go home on time, saving YOU a ton of overtime. The guys calling on early don't get overtime for doing so, but they're saving the taxpayers money by doing so. Take home cars serve as a "manpower multiplier," in many cases doubling the number of trained cops on the street to respond to emergencies, so the taxpayer is actually getting more out of this than the individual officers. At least your neighbors don't come to your house all hours of the day and night looking for legal advice about their divorces/child custody disputes, directions, VIN checks or assistance in getting their wayward kids under control, just because they saw the car out front. Sure, most of the new guys think the take-home car is kinda cool, but a lot of the veterans are just tired of the hassles that go along with it. The biggest benefit to the officer is knowing that his personally owned equipment is where he expects it to be, in working order, and that the weapons will actually go bang if he ever needs them. From a cop's point of view, the car thing is a double-edged sword and not that much of a monetary benefit at all once you look at all the factors involved. Lifer, I have to disagree with you regarding the cars. The city gets far more out of those cars than most people realize…numerous officers working part-time jobs around the city use those cars to transport their own arrestees, rather than calling for an on-duty unit to make the transport. Every time an on-duty unit is called for a transport, expect it to take him/her out of service for about an hour, and that adds up in a hurry. Additionally, back in the days of fleet cars, officers routinely spent up to an hour per day loading and unloading equipment…if you look at the number of squads on the street during any given day, the lost man-hours can easily run in excess of 75 per day, at over $50/hr by the time you calculate salaries, benefits, insurance, worker’s comp and all the other costs associated with putting cops on the streets. Off-duty units handle thousands of incidents every year that would ordinarily fall to the already strained manpower levels of the police department. In addition, units routinely call on early to take runs so the officers ending their shifts can go home on time, saving YOU a ton of overtime. The guys calling on early don’t get overtime for doing so, but they’re saving the taxpayers money by doing so. Take home cars serve as a “manpower multiplier,” in many cases doubling the number of trained cops on the street to respond to emergencies, so the taxpayer is actually getting more out of this than the individual officers. At least your neighbors don’t come to your house all hours of the day and night looking for legal advice about their divorces/child custody disputes, directions, VIN checks or assistance in getting their wayward kids under control, just because they saw the car out front. Sure, most of the new guys think the take-home car is kinda cool, but a lot of the veterans are just tired of the hassles that go along with it. The biggest benefit to the officer is knowing that his personally owned equipment is where he expects it to be, in working order, and that the weapons will actually go bang if he ever needs them. From a cop’s point of view, the car thing is a double-edged sword and not that much of a monetary benefit at all once you look at all the factors involved.

]]> By: FWLifer http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2007/09/25/kelty-announces-public-safety-initiatives/comment-page-1/#comment-14812 FWLifer Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:10:39 +0000 http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2007/09/25/kelty-announces-public-safety-initiatives/#comment-14812 I'll have to agree with Scott. Although I am a strong Kelty supporter. the County has proven to be a rudderless ship. It's best to let the more experienced call takers guide the boat. However, I would take away the cars. They are a minimal crime deterrent and more of a feelgood benefit. I’ll have to agree with Scott. Although I am a strong Kelty supporter. the County has proven to be a rudderless ship. It’s best to let the more experienced call takers guide the boat. However, I would take away the cars. They are a minimal crime deterrent and more of a feelgood benefit.

]]> By: Scott http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2007/09/25/kelty-announces-public-safety-initiatives/comment-page-1/#comment-14776 Scott Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:00:51 +0000 http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2007/09/25/kelty-announces-public-safety-initiatives/#comment-14776 How would you improve the take home cars program? I also do not like the idea of having the county take over the police dispatch of the city. The county over its history has been backward and ineffective at all levels. It is the city that needs to take the leave, not the county. How would you improve the take home cars program?

I also do not like the idea of having the county take over the police dispatch of the city. The county over its history has been backward and ineffective at all levels. It is the city that needs to take the leave, not the county.

]]> By: J. Q. Taxpayer http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2007/09/25/kelty-announces-public-safety-initiatives/comment-page-1/#comment-14748 J. Q. Taxpayer Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:24:25 +0000 http://www.angrywhiteboy.org/index.php/2007/09/25/kelty-announces-public-safety-initiatives/#comment-14748 I agree with Matt 175% on the Combo of the dispatch centers and to get the ambulance distach center included. He is right on. See, if the Sheriff messes up the dispatch center we can vote him out. He can not hide behind the Mayor. We have him in our sights. Gosh, accountability right to the voter! How strange? I still thinking about the other two. I agree with Matt 175% on the Combo of the dispatch centers and to get the ambulance distach center included. He is right on.

See, if the Sheriff messes up the dispatch center we can vote him out. He can not hide behind the Mayor. We have him in our sights. Gosh, accountability right to the voter! How strange?

I still thinking about the other two.

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